Mad Social Scientist ([info]mawaridi) wrote,
@ 2009-05-29 13:40:00
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Current mood: enraged

The Phone Saga Continues and Mawaridi Completely Loses Her Shit
As I mentioned, two weeks ago I left my mobile phone on a bus and it never turned up again. Immediately after losing the phone I called Telstra, my service provider, and asked them to put a suspension on my account so that if anyone found my phone they couldn't use it to make calls for which I would have to pay. I also got calls diverted to my mother's phone number, so that people would still be able to get in touch with me if necessary.

I have since got my hands on a replacement phone (an old one of my dad's) and got myself a new sim card on my old account, so I can keep my old number. Of course, in order to use the replacement phone with my new sim and my old number, I need to get the suspension taken off my account with Telstra so I can actually make calls. Also, the call forwarding apparently can't be removed until my account is unsuspended, so I can't receive calls to my new phone until that happens either.

This is where the trouble begins.

I have called Telstra's various service lines SEVEN TIMES on THREE DIFFERENT DAYS. I've tried every phone number I can find, support, accounts, billing, complaints. I have been into a Telstra store to speak to someone face-to-face, with no result. I have been passed around countless offices, referred to numerous other departments, and told on three occasions that everything was fixed, when it WASN'T. None of the help desk people have had any idea of how to fix my problem, and most of them in fact seemed incapable of comprehending what my problem WAS. Account is suspended. I want to it to be not suspended. IT IS NOT THAT COMPLEX.

I try not to be angry, shouty or terse with call centre employees because I know they're not personally responsible for the flaws of the company they work for, english is often not their first language and most of them get very poor training. But honestly, I am at the end of my tether. This is seriously ridiculous. How can it possibly be so difficult to reactivate a suspended account, let alone understand that this is what I'm asking for? Surely if individual call centre workers can't remove the suspension, they should have a supervisor who is capable of such things. I have been polite and tried to remain calm but I am now at the point when I want to scream and throw things and possibly throttle the IDIOT on the other end of the phone line because DAMN IT, "PLEASE REMOVE MY SUSPENSION" SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

AAAAAUUUUGH!

Oh, and? I am on a capped $50 plan, which means I pay $50 per month for my account with Telstra regardless of how many calls I make (up to $100). If I am required to pay the full $50 for May despite the fact that my account has been unusable for two weeks, I am going to be very. Fucking. Angry.

Well, even more fucking angry, I should say. I'm already pretty enraged. I do not. Have the energy. For this shit.



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[info]kerrikins
2009-05-29 05:10 am UTC (link)
Oh, ouch :(

Is there any chance you could call in and demand to speak with a supervisor? Or threaten cancellation, that usually gets attention and might just get you some movement on their end. they really can't get away with charging you for service that isn't working because of *their* mistake.

I hope you get this sorted out!

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[info]mawaridi
2009-05-29 05:21 am UTC (link)
I have spoken to a supervisor on one occasion. She was very helpful and apologetic and said she would refer my account to IT as there was a fault in the system, and it should be fixed within 72 hours. Unfortunately, despite her niceness, it was not fixed :(

I have sent an email, since the phone lines are clearly staffed by people who don't have the training and service knowledge to help me, and in that email I threatened to leave Telstra and take my family's landline and two mobile accounts with me. The wait time on email responses is 2 business days, sometimes more, so I'm not holding out much hope. But we'll see what happens.

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[info]kerrikins
2009-05-29 05:30 am UTC (link)
Honestly - and as someone who works in the busines, even - if you don't hear back from them with action, I'd call in and escalate. Or say that you'd like to cancel your account and see if that department (if they have a retention department) can solve the problem or be willing to escalate the issue with you and keep in contact.

Have you tried asking for credits already? I would, to be honest. Say that you'd like them aplied immediately, or onto your next bill.

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you, I can't believe that it's taking so long. It really sounds as though it's tech support that you need to be talking with, it's very strange that they haven't fixed it. If you end up having to call back in, I'd ask if someone can at least contact you when it's solved, so that you don't feel like you have to call in constantly.

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[info]sjl
2009-05-29 07:10 am UTC (link)
Three words.

Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman.

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[info]saralonde24
2009-05-29 10:48 am UTC (link)
Gee, Telstra are hopeless aren't they - I had an absolutely ridiculous time with them re: transfer of account details for a home phone landline. I agree with sjl - make a complaint to the Ombudsman. I hope that you also get a fast resolution to your immediate complaint soon.

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[info]saralonde24
2009-05-29 10:52 am UTC (link)
and i meant to also say, the scariest thing is that Optus are probably even worse than Telstra...they visited the wrong street address twice to try and install our phone line when we first moved into the place I currently live at, so we immediately moved to Telstra...and that has certainly had its special moments (like the time my credit card was getting charged for my former housemate's account in his new sharehouse in a completely different suburb...due to a "system snapshot" error).

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[info]asmodel
2009-05-29 12:15 pm UTC (link)
All the phone comapnies are terrible. Don't get me started on the energy companies. They're just as bad. I'm still not convinced I've sorted out my ongoing electricity saga.

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[info]saralonde24
2009-05-29 01:26 pm UTC (link)
yes, I know what you mean, the energy companies are just as bad....still no gas bill from AGL and it's been nearly two years since I moved into the place I currently live in :S

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[info]asmodel
2009-05-29 02:37 pm UTC (link)
???? Two years? Check that up ASAP, because after a year of no bill from Red, I discovered I was not connected with them. They of course never bothered to inform me of this. I then got a nasty letter from Tru saying I was connected with them, and please send my billing details so they could charge me at their rates, which I had not authorised. I think halfway through the phone call to them I hung up in disgust, *without* giving my name. I've had other similar problems here, so I think Tru have decided that only they can service this property. I'll leave the rest of my energy company woes for another time.

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[info]rhyannonf
2009-05-29 11:48 pm UTC (link)
An interesting thing to note about energy providers - If they do not bill you for a period of 9 months or longer, they are no longer entitled to seek payment. (This I learned in Consumer Law last week.)

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[info]asmodel
2009-05-29 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Rrrrreeeeeeally? That is indeed a very interesting piece of information to have. I shall use that on Tru if they pull that stunt on me again. That was indeed my main argument - why did you wait 12 months to contact me? If they contacted me after a couple of months, I could have changed providers and not had much difference in service and charges. They tried to blame me for not contacting them, but after I found my chosen supplier had not connected me, I had no idea what to do. Essentially they were putting the responsibility of their mistake onto me. Thanks for giving me the legal background for my argument so I don't have to rely on Darrell Kerrigan's 'law of bloody common sense' :)

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[info]saralonde24
2009-05-30 03:45 am UTC (link)
yeah, the last time I contacted AGL re: the gas was about one year ago, we had followed up with them several times asking them to send us a gas bill, and they kept saying they would and they still haven't. They have no problem with sending us electricity bills though...

My former housemate told me that there is a limitation period for payment if they do eventually issue a bill...who knows how it will all end up.

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[info]rhyannonf
2009-05-30 05:17 am UTC (link)
After a little research I found this on the EWOV site:

"For electricity and natural gas, a retailer can go back only nine months if the backbill is because of something they did or didn't do. However, if the reason for the backbill isn't anything the retailer did, it can go back 12 months (e.g. if the distributor didn’t provide meter reading information to the retailer). There are no limits to how far the retailer can go back if you acted unlawfully (e.g. tampered with the meter) or if you repeatedly blocked access to the meter.

For water, electricity and natural gas, the company must give you equal time to pay — so, if it’s billing you back 6 months, the company must give you 6 months to pay that backbill."

I suppose this means that when AGL eventually does decide to send you a bill (if they ever do) they can only charge back for 9 months, and you get 9 months to pay. If they are incapable of sending you a bill then every day just increases the amount of gas you have received for free. It sounds like you tried to resolve the billing issue with them and they just don't want your money. :-)

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[info]rhyannonf
2009-05-30 05:20 am UTC (link)
PS: Apparently AGL are notorious for not sending out bills.

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[info]rhyannonf
2009-05-30 05:09 am UTC (link)
Hehehe... If only the law of common sense was consistent with the actual law! Energy companies do some pretty naughty things - if you do have any issues in the future you can go to EWOV (Energy and Water Ombudsman of Victoria), they're very good at getting a positive result where energy companies are being dicky.

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[info]rhyannonf
2009-05-30 05:19 am UTC (link)
I checked the EWOV site and I think I need to clarify - if the energy company is not sending you a bill then they can only charge back for 9 months and have to give you 9 months to pay. Any services provided beyond that 9 months are no longer chargeable. But again, if you do have issues with an energy company go to EVOW.

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[info]asmodel
2009-05-30 05:29 am UTC (link)
Thanks for clarifying that.

There are some good cases of not receiving mail. I must have missed a notice of rental increase, as I received a few statements saying I needed to pay a larger amount than usual. About this time, I started receiving a steady income, so I could pay my rent on time, as opposed to last year, where I was consistently late. A few months of on-time payments made the statements stop. Guess they didn't need the de-facto eviction method after all.

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[info]madrigalis
2009-06-01 05:53 am UTC (link)
If you're still having problems with this, let one of us know - MrM may be able to help.

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